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Annotation errors in relative clauses incl. partitive elaborations on nominals #503
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Thanks! Agree on most of the ones that should be
This one is tricky. "The best there is" is an idiom. I think it is a relative clause, and "best" stands for roughly "the best option". It's hard to make a paraphrase with "there is" that preserves the semantics/information structure though.
I think this is correct as expl. "It" is nonreferential.
Where is the issue here?
"whatever gains could be made (in the...)" is a free relative. The only issue I see in the basic tree is that
Yeah, a relativizer is missing.
Grammatical ("cast in steel" is being used like an adjective: cf. "not all of them as rigid as the points" or "not all of which are as rigid as the points"). Will have to think about this but my hunch is it should be
Yeah this is ungrammatical. Maybe "of" was supposed to be "who"? "of" is attached as |
Thanks for the clarification! I think me in the sentence below should be iobj?
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Yes, I would agree with the iobj annotation though it sounds a bit nonstandard to my ear. |
Most of the ones that should be
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("the chance that" and vocative "my friends" were addressed in 495a62f) |
Ones I'm not sure about—@amir-zeldes?
Also, there are these items that strike me as syntactic blends: incorporated-particle-adjectives "ongoing" and "upcoming" coerced into acting like verbs. (I would have said "happening"/"going on" and "coming up" respectively.) Because these don't have bare verb lemmas I'm leaving them as ADJ and changing
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I think customers already on DA: would go with nmod, same as "customers on DA" plus an adjunct. Ongoing etc. look like extraposed adj, like "a table similar to a chair", so +1 |
I guess it depends which acls we're talking about...a lot of them are noun complements, for example, but I don't see that as particularly relevant to this construction. Looking at the verbless clauses (GUM, EWT), it looks like GUM puts several verbless clauses with "each"-subjects under
"Some of them very touristic" is the only Overall, among the verbless clauses, the ones under |
Agreed, it should be uniform, and my tendency looking at the examples is to change acl to parataxis as parenthetical, except maybe the ones introduced by "with", since I think that's a kind of complementizer that suggests a real adjunct structure (prepositional, just mark because its arg is a clause). Would you be on board with |
OK. Now all verbless acls with subjects are with-absolutes in EWT. |
Actually, I just realized that this construction has a relative clause counterpart (GUM, EWT). Taking the above example:
We can rephrase as:
I think the parallelism is a good reason to go with (I'd say that parentheticals are not completely covered by |
I'm not sure about that... I mean, sure, a relative paraphrase for that exists, but that's probably true of a lot of parataxes. What exactly is the criterion to make this one be acl? What I like about singling out "with" is that the criterion is fairly clear: it's an explicit complementizer, which realizes explicit syntactic subordination. I can't say that about things like:
There is a paraphrase:
And the latter is definitely a subordinating construction. But in the former example "(he's my cousin)" is what I'd call a paradigm example of a parenthetical, which should therefore be |
"He's my cousin" can stand as an independent clause, so that's clearly parataxis. It seems to me that the verbless construction we're talking about is used more narrowly to expand on a nominal. |
Relatedly, verbless absolute constructions can occur in a clause with or without "with": "(With) his hands in the air, the suspect was arrested." Those are both advcl right? I think this shows that subject+verbless predicate constructions tend to be modifiers as opposed to parataxis. |
What about:
I think that can't stand alone - is that not a parenthetical parataxis? |
I would say "Bob (my boss)" is appos. Is it appos with "formerly"? I guess it depends how strictly the reversibility criterion is enforced. If it's not appos then it's parataxis by default—not a clause right? This seems related to the postmodifying age construction: "Smith, 42, was appointed". EWT, GUM are not consistent. |
To expand on the problem, below we have a range of paraphrases that tack on an elaboration about the applicants:
How should lines be drawn here? It's not obvious to me. For elaborating clauses, @amir-zeldes suggests explicit subordination (with a word like "with" or "if" or a relative clause) as a test for modification status ( It seems to me that there is a construction—call it the Partitive Subject Elaboration construction—that (2-4) share in common. Maybe this is reason enough to consider them all some version of |
1. is an apposition, and 5. is an adnominal gerund clause ( |
Wouldn't (1) be like "formerly my boss"? I thought you said no to To add another one to the mix: 6. Each year the program admits a dozen applicants, mostly from outside the U.S. |
Oh I see... yes, OK, maybe that's also not revsersible, I wasn't sure. In any case, I think 3. is totally different, and 2. is probably a verbless version of 4., so I agree they should ideally be the same. |
OK to be fair this is an acceptable sentence:
But the meaning changes: I would take this to mean that all of the dozen are international, and "mostly" is in reference to some understood larger superset. |
The following sentences are not relative clauses but the words in bold are marked with acl:relcl.
In this day its rare to find such wonderful people who CARE , Not the kind of want to make cash.
dependency relations are wrong for the tokens in bold.
not sure if they are correct or not/sentences are ungrammatical
In this day its rare to find such wonderful people who CARE , Not the kind of want to make cash.
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