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Post-nominal advmod #557

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nschneid opened this issue Dec 12, 2024 · 4 comments
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Post-nominal advmod #557

nschneid opened this issue Dec 12, 2024 · 4 comments

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nschneid commented Dec 12, 2024

This mostly applies to locative ADVs and focusing modifiers.

Other cases are worth reviewing, as I have noticed some errors.

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^ A lot of these fixes are existential constructions where the advmod was attaching to the pivot (nsubj) but should actually attach to BE as it is the coda (locative phrase licensed by the construction).

Also a few floating quantifiers—attached them to the following predicate instead of the nominal they semantically modify. Ambiguous: "you blame it all on society" (left it alone).

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Here are the GUM issues I noticed looking at https://universal.grew.fr/?custom=675a59c719ef1:

  • wrong structure e.g. should attach to verb not noun
    • Press the mixture slightly to eliminate air pockets.
    • Move the finger backward
    • one year later
    • I love these together
    • we'll come up with a new act together
  • all the way up (I think "up" should be the head)
  • with sofas and chairs all around (should be absolute clause)
  • from the hip down (this is a very interesting construction; cf. "from the hip AND down". not sure how to analyze it)
  • This side up (guessing this is also an absolute clause)
  • There is not much snow, just a few inches each year, typically (should attach to "is" I think)
  • the swish of the taxis on the slush outside (should attach to "slush" not "swish"?)
  • a stretch of road in Kansas where the countryside is absolutely flat (should be advcl:relcl)
  • Working Out Loud (I suppose "out loud" can be analyzed as a PP thus obl in a normal phrase, though this is complicated by being a name. Should "Loud" be PROPN?)

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Fixed these, except:

  • I love these together - I think [these together] is an NP - it's not that I perform loving of these together with someone else. The thing I love is [these together]. It can also be fronted: "these together I love"
  • a few inches each year, typically - I think attaching to "is" would mean "typically there is not much snow", but that's not right - it's "a few inches each year" that's "typical"
  • the swish of the taxis on the slush outside - I think it's the slush that's outside. The swish could be heard inside and outside :)
  • Kansas where - sure, but should be acl:relcl not advcl:relcl right?
  • Working Out Loud - I think this is OK as is - it's a subtype of "Working Loud/advmod", specifically the "outwardly" type of "loud" or something like that (admittedly it's an odd phrase)
  • galore is etymologically a PP "to sufficiency"; it's odd as both amod and advmod, so I'd just as soon stick to advmod

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nschneid commented Jan 1, 2025

Fixed these, except:

  • I love these together - I think [these together] is an NP - it's not that I perform loving of these together with someone else. The thing I love is [these together]. It can also be fronted: "these together I love"

I think of it as short for "I love having/seeing these together", where "together" is depictive not restrictive. Easier to see with a personal pronoun: "I love you together" (I love the two of you as a couple). "You together is what I love" is not as natural. Or with another kind of depictive predication: "I love my pie piping hot." "I love my books in alphabetical order on the shelf."

  • a few inches each year, typically - I think attaching to "is" would mean "typically there is not much snow", but that's not right - it's "a few inches each year" that's "typical"

Isn't it a paraphrase of "Typically there is not much snow, just a few inches each year"?

This is complicated by the construction "There is not X, just Y"—you could think of it as ellipsis with "there is just Y" implied. I guess that's your approach. Or you could think of adverbials attaching to the overt "is" as scoping over the entire sentence. As "typically" is an event-adverbial I would prefer to attach to a real predicate where possible.

  • the swish of the taxis on the slush outside - I think it's the slush that's outside. The swish could be heard inside and outside :)

Yes that's what I'm advocating: attaching to "slush"

  • Kansas where - sure, but should be acl:relcl not advcl:relcl right?

You're right, I was thinking of the free relatives but this is not one of them.

  • Working Out Loud - I think this is OK as is - it's a subtype of "Working Loud/advmod", specifically the "outwardly" type of "loud" or something like that (admittedly it's an odd phrase)

Yeah I dunno it's weird

  • galore is etymologically a PP "to sufficiency"; it's odd as both amod and advmod, so I'd just as soon stick to advmod

"Galore" is discussed in the literature as a rare example of an adjective that is always postnominal. E.g. CGEL p. 560:
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I don't think it can ever be adverbial: *I ate galore.

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